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blindnoob

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Im in the process of putting together a small order and want to try the frit or powder and have a few questions.
why frit or why powder?
is there like a dont use opaque with transperant or some thing like that?
does either burn easy?
could i use either in clear instead of wraping it from a rod?
how much is a ounce (alot a little) of either and how long does it last?
and anything else would be great help.

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As a beginner I would go with the frit. You want to be very careful with the powder, it can cause a lot of damage to your lungs if the proper care is not taken.  Also, frit gives you a lot of bang for your buck looks wise, whereas powder is a lot more subtle.  And frit is a lot of fun.

You can use frit with opaque or transparent, you can encase it, swirl it, etc. and you can mix the colors etc.  The only real rule is you can't mix different coe's.  You want to use 104 frit with 104 glass or 96 frit with 96 glass.  You can get away with about 10% frit of a different coe but it can still be an issue, so the best thing to do is not mix them.



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Oh and an ounce is a good size to try it out, it really doesn't take much frit to make a pretty bead.

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thank you for the advice and especialy the part of the COE has to match. I bought some localy at a art store with a 90 or 96 maybe COE and used it and it is rather nice. I just did not know the differences.
Is it possible to use a clear frit to encase a project instead of from a rod?
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Yes you can but it won't look the same since you will need to roll it in the frit several times at least and the depth of the clear will vary around the bead.  Would be a cool effect, just not the same as actually encasing it with the rod.

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Dennis, the uses of frit are endless... and you can consider them extra color in bit form.  Powders are kinda like background colors for mood, and to stage your design with.

You can use 96 COE frit on a 104 glass base bead, but realize that 96 is harder and takes a bit more to melt.  The lower the COE number the harder the glass usually. 

Like Sonja said, when using 90 or 96 COE with 104 COE rods you need to make sure it is less than 10% of the volume of the bead.  Even then it can fight and causes cracks sometimes.  Be sure to make a trial bead before you make a set.

I use 96 COE frit with 104 all the time because I like the intensity of some colors, but there are great 104 frits.

Frit comes in all sizes of grinds from powder to chunks.  The Powders add wonderful color but you must have good exhaust ventilation that takes it away from you, and you should wear the appropriate mask when you use it.  AND when you clean it up as dust use a damp paper towel or tissue to collect it and not make it air borne again.  I clean up with my exhaust fan going.

Clear frit or powder can be a thin encasing by the way.  Just check for compatibility on a sample bead before making a set.

Clear as mudd?  Any other questions?


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Sonya and Kristina thank you for the info. Definitely clear you all put it in simple terms to understand. On the questions I will sure have more as I progress and to this point you all have been of so much help and greatly appreciated!

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